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State of the Muppets - An Opinion

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Frogster, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    In order to get back on topic and clarify things after the merge I thought it might be best to briefly iterate our view on the recent Muppets.

    State of the Muppets: Good to fair & rising with a chance of slightly cloudy DC projects that will quickly pass resulting in golden rays of Muppets likely to last through 2010 and beyond. ;)
     
  2. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    New signiture moment!
     
  3. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Well... SNL has fake commercials and then breaks for real ones. Dunno, maybe, if we're following the Sesame pattern, they could have the real commercials for other Disney programming/movies both before the beginning and after the end of the show. That would trunkate the show a smidge, but we'd still get more or less about a half-hour of Muppety goodness.

    *Shouts Feenie, Feeeeeenieeeee, Fee-niee!
    *Shouts Fozzie, Fozzzzzzzieeeeeee, Fozz-Ziee!
     
  4. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Instead of a State of the Union address, we need a State of the Muppets address.

    Where's that Muppet Newsman when we need him?

    I 'might' get a chance to view the show soon! I hope so. I want to see it for myself.
     
  5. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Hee... You need the Newsman? Ask Winslow Leach, he rooms with him at the dorms. Place a call through to him. Watch your hands though, it's not called a red hot hotline phone for nothing.
    *Answers phone and smoke billows out.
    Kermit: Who was that?
    The *cough* fire department.
     
  6. Vic Romano

    Vic Romano Active Member

    Now there's a classic Muppet that needs to make a come back. Everyone mentions they want Scooter back, but the Newsman is due!
     
  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Totally! Scooter and the Newsman. The guy who performed Scooter in VMX is the one I want to see come back again. They need to keep him on the payroll for sure. Not sure who I would like to see take over Newsman, but he's needed. He's hilarious.
     
  8. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I think that is what I liked so much about the old muppets..everyone, the muppets, SS etc, they all seemed so connected together and you could tell how they were all doing as a whole..now it seems like they hang out in pairs or threes, but never so much all together like a family. I'd at least like to see that feeling return to just the main muppets again :)
     
  9. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Aw. I'm glad someone agrees. That's what I feel is happening now. In the years of EMTV and Henson ownership a good idea or two would come out with the Muppets and then there would be insufficient follow through. Disney's covering all the bases. ;)
     
  10. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    Now, I'm not complaing about DC here, but it's funny to me that the Muppets.com and YouTube videos are the ones the don't get made into a show. I especially thin the YouTube ones are perfectly the Muppets. I wouldn't even mind of like they got like an online show of this kind of bazaar, abstract content.:excited:
     
  11. Frogster

    Frogster Active Member

    I know there's a rift between this site and ToughPigs but if you guys go to that site, they sum up pretty well how I feel. And frankly, since it's on the main page, I figured that's how most people felt. Then again, ToughPigs has always been more of a frank and up-front site.
     
  12. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter New Member

    The article on ToughPigs doesn't entirely agree with what you originally posted, though. It's not saying the Muppets are dead. It talks about how kids today don't really know the Muppets, then discusses Disney's (almost desperate) efforts to introduce the Muppets to a younger audience. It is a very frank article, but not a negative one. This is about the extent of the criticism: "I’m not going to dwell on the quality of the special – it was probably enjoyable enough for the target crowd, but I personally found it soul-crushingly awful."

    ToughPigs is updated by all sorts of people with different opinions. The individual writing the article expressed his own personal opinion about the show in that sentence. But, just because something is written on the main page, that doesn't mean it's what the majority of fans are thinking.

    Here's the article about Studio DC:

    Monday, August 4, 2008: Won't Somebody Think of the Children?
     
  13. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Hmm...Tough Pigs style just doesn't suit me, I thought about joining, but I'm really not that much for in you face type of debates...Even at our worst I like here better:)
     
  14. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    :zany: A brief digression. I tend to agree with the Henson Legacy’s links page that references Tough Pigs as a "great, snarky fan site – for more adult audiences." I stop there every several days, but the snark-factor can be too potent for my taste. Snark doesn't automatically yield honesty, but it can sometimes make for a fun read. TP is a more specific group of fan-friends. I get why they're around and actually support a lot of it. I must note the mood there has vastly improved since the revival of the home page. I miss those ugly toy pageants. I miss them good! If there’s anyone around here that hasn't read some of the archived articles - I encourage you to do so! You are in for a treat.

    :search: Back to the topic at hand. That particular TP article goes a little further than I would, but I understand the sentiment. It actually takes a wait and see approach that doesn't particularly agree with your point of view either. Nowhere does it make the announcement that the Muppets are dead or the Muppeteers should stop embarrassingly tarnishing the legacy of Jim Henson. It doesn't say that at all.

    :attitude: To say that an honest opinion isn’t respected around here is not true! Fan or not, you just can’t go on any Muppet forum and make bold statements like “the Muppets are dead” without expecting some greatly annoyed replies.
     
  15. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    They're not, they're not! *stamps feet* :(
     
  16. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Case in point.
     
  17. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I couldn't help myself;)..because they're not!:excited:
    Of course, they would not be dead to me even if there were never anymore new things, but I'm weird like that :p
     
  18. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Indeed. And many of us would agree.
     
  19. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    To me dead means no one remembers and no one ever becomes a fan of them ever again..and even if only two children out of hundreds actually decide to be fans, then to me the muppets are alive and well:excited:
     
  20. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    And of course, we here will probably be senior citizens someday & would still love The Muppets.
     


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