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Weinstein rolls with Fraggle Rock movie

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by GelflingWaldo, May 13, 2008.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's good. I had a feeling it would be out this month at some point, now I don't have to worry about it not showing up.
  2. Daffney

    Daffney Active Member

    Back to those Weinheads, looks like Hoodwinked Too got crushed at the box office. Also, Scre4m is having some tepid numbers. :sympathy:
  3. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

  4. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    I seem to recall back in 2005, shortly after The Muppets' Wizard of Oz aired and the Hensons were doing some big (for them) things for the 50th anniversary, someone on here or Tough Pigs said that it seemed like Disney handling the Muppets had little to no promise at all meanwhile the JHC was announcing big news in the way of PotDC, this project, MirrorMask was a few weeks away from release (why is it so easy to get that movie made but not two films based on established franchises?), HIT Entertainment seemed to be the company to finally give us obscure Henson goodies. They had tons of promise, then it all came to a screeching halt while Disney has a new Muppet movie coming out in 6 months and tons of other plans. What's Henson done? A movie too artsy for it's own good, a moderately popular show using the HDPS and a bland outsourced CG shows. All that Henson has going for them now is Henson Alternative and even that does next to nothing, just improv shows and TV pilots that don't get picked up. I'm sorry, but I'm abandoning ship. This movie is never getting made. Weinsteins are a huge fail of a movie studio.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    A) Fixed your link in the quote

    B) I didn't expect a movie that they have been sitting on for over a year that had all sorts of problems getting released, then getting released so close to when Hop and Rio are still in theaters to do well

    C) I really DUG this movie, going in knowing that someone tinkered around with it. But I'm guessing the first one was better. Though I DID love the train scene AND the Yodelers.

    D) HA! Yeah, we REALLY needed another Scream, didn't we?

    E) if Weinsuck keeps having flops, maybe they'll go bankrupt soon enough and the FR movie will go to someone who wants it.
  6. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    Like Lionsgate, or Disney, or a group of ambitious film students, or a chimp with a video camera.

    At this point, they all are more likely candidates. :coy:
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's clear to me that said company in question just DOESN'T know how to run a movie studio, and in trying to make things more mainstream, they're making things worse. Like I've always said, they just want to avoid making movies at any cost. They sat on Hoodwinked 2 for a year, the production company sued to get it out, and when it finally came out, it was released too close to Rio to really make a major difference. Thor's coming out Friday, and if it didn't get steamrolled last weekend, it's gonna be steamrolled now. Had it the cushy January/February spot last year like it was SUPPOSED to have, it may have stood a chance. Look at what the February release date did for that horrible Gnome movie. No competition! And this HAD to have been a million times funnier than that. Twitchy alone had me giggling.

    Only problem I had with Hoodwinked is you could tell that some (of the worst) lines of dialogue seemed added in last minute, and obnoxiously hip (most of it was said in cutaway shots where you couldn't see character's mouths move). But the rest of the film outshone that stuff.

    It does seem to be a matter of "Did we really need a Hoodwinked 2?", sure, but the poor promotion and odd release date of BOTH this and Scream 4 really hit these films hard. And again, conflicted. If Weinstine goes under, there's a chance someone else could do the Fraggle Movie. but then they'd need to shop it around AGAIN!
  8. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    As much as I hate Comcast, I'm actually thinking that Universal could be a good fit for the Fraggles. They need some good films lately and they like family fare. This could really be a feather in their cap and frog knows they promote the heck out of their movies. :coy:
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I don't know... Wasn't Hop directed by someone Muppet fans don't really have any love for? They've only done 2, and so far they were both CGI films. I'd be willing to give Hop a shot on DVD if I could only use a Redbox (no credit card)... Dispicable Me was great. But still, they only had 2.

    Now, if Corey could still use his script and still direct, I wouldn't mind (as long as NBCGECOMCASTUniversalWerefusetopaytaxes keeps its cross promoting noise to a bare minimum in the film), I'd be all for it. If they make a new one from scratch, and it's all about the Fraggles watching NBC's new line up, forget it.

    The problem is the best studio for this project WOULD have to be low key. Had the company we have now managed the money BETTER, we could have seen an unfutzed around with gamble of a film.
  10. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I liked the first Hoodwinked and appreciated some moments in the sequel, but as a film it was pretty awful. I don't know if they hacked to death the screenplay or what the heck happened, but it wasn't even a remotely good film. I really wanted to like it and have supported Mr. Edwards vision for Fraggle Rock too, yet now I am concerned and maybe it does need to go into a different direction. I don't know. Maybe HW2 isn't an indicator. The brilliance of the first Hoodwinked was missing and that just makes me think that the Fraggle magic could be missing in the proposed screenplay. Waiting could be a good thing. I still wish that Cory Edwards could shoot a kick-butt Fraggle Movie tomorrow. There's just a little less confidence in me tonight.
  11. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    This. Universal would be a great spot for the Fraggles right now. They could probably take this movie somewhat far, at least farther than Weinstein. And not to mention having the Fraggles as meetable characters in the theme parks... :excited:
  12. Daffney

    Daffney Active Member

    I don't think Universal would be a good choice for the Fraggle movie. You'd have a better chance if Lionsgate did it.

    BTW, I found out that You Know Who pulled the release date of Apollo 18 back to this year, as a late summer blockbuster. :attitude:
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I have yet to see the first one, but it clearly seems the problem WAS the fact that they had too many cooks spoiling the broth. I know Corey was kinda upset (or at least miffed) that certain things were pulled out of the script. I found the ending to be kinda anti-climactic... but I gotta tell you... when the Granny jumped through the laser field and DIDN'T fart like in the previews, I almost gave the film a standing ovation.

    Only things that really bugged me were the obviously added in after last minute movie reference dialogue, the very limp beginning, and the fact the CGI was pretty much TV show quality. other than that, I enjoyed it for the most part. But the movie had me laughing at the GOOD parts, especially at the wolf and Twitchy. Can't say I really cracked much of a smile when I made the dumb mistake to see the Yogi Bear film. Well, okay, I smiled when they played Weird Al's "Lasagna" for no apparent reason.

    I agree, how this movie was handled isn't a good sign for the Fraggle Film. They sat on this film for over a year, taking it from a cushy January/February slot (same reason why that soulless Gnome thing kept getting good B.O., especially later), they basically just dumped the film out (almost as a court ordered contractual obligation) at the end of April... even the previews before the film were the unspectacular tween films based off of kids books type movies. Well, except for Pooh, but that trailer's been out a while now. Heck, even Scream 4 wasn't promoted all that well.
  14. Daffney

    Daffney Active Member

    I'm not sure if the poor performance of Hoodwinked Too will get the Weinslimes off the Fraggle film, but I'm sensing it will.

    Oh, and they are finding an excuse to cook up Scr5am.
  15. Daffney

    Daffney Active Member

    Hate to double post but Cory Edwards had some news we missed:

    Oh, sure, now the Weinsteins jump ship. Looks like the bombing of Hoodwinked Too had nothing to do with the let off.

    Well, they cared more on Wes Craven Phones it It, and they can go ahead with Robert Rodriguez Runs Out of Ideas.

    Now Henson can look for a new partner, if they ever decide to do so that is.:smirk:
  16. TSSD

    TSSD Well-Known Member

    IMO, this is great news. Now Henson can find a partner that actually wants to do it, instead of being stuck with Weinstein.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm glad they're gone, but I'm NOT glad that they're sitting on a script for a bunch of characters they don't own and don't want to make a movie with.

    I still hope Henson goes through with this, gets Cory or someone who has a similar passion, and finds a partner hungry to do the film. Henson does want to bring the characters back in some form, and a movie could work, if they can get a GOOD script and find a good, strong partner. I've said it a million and a half times by now, Dinosaur Train is a good show, I'm glad it's successful... but in no way should an entertainment company that's legacy is in pupetterring have a Singapore CGI animated show with Canadian Voice actors instead of its own regular puppeteers be the tent pole franchise. It's up to Henson to take the last shred of Muppet they have, put it out there, and make it their personal upfronts. Their Mickey Mouse.

    So far, with franchises like Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, and yes, FR, they only stepped in with comic books, and they seem to have gotten a pretty good response. The Dark Crystal Free Comic book ran out before I could get to any comic store, and I left fairly early. I see all this weird Fraggle Stuff at Spencers, so they really want to bring the characters back.

    Still, let's get that Doozer cartoon out there first.
  18. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

    From "The Sun"
  19. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Saw a mention of that on Facebook. Your article is even funnier. As much as I love Red ... "the star"? Really? And they clearly haven't watched the show. Songs are sung to help keep the Rock alive. Still ... it's weird that we're hearing about the music BEFORE hearing the deal with what's going on with the movie after the Weinstein disaster.
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Starred doesn't usually mean THE Star...

    but really... I'm not taking any stock in anything.

    Either this is an OLD report that just surfaced (Weinstine dropped the FR movie relatively recently)... something the entertainment news media is famous for (all the reports of The Muppets movie released to magazines either print or online have been stuff we already knew) OR this could be some weird random report that nothing will come out of.

    I mean it... oddly enough, there's more of a chance that this movie will happen without the dead weight of a mismanaged studio, but that's still a slight chance. I mean, for this movie to get going Henson first needs to find another business partner, and (since the script and director were both part of the Weinstine deal) they need a NEW script and a new Director. I wish somehow Henson would buy the script back out from under them. Cory's getting a bad reputation no thanks to how much Weinstine screwed up Hoodwinked 2 with new writers. I don't think that's fair at all.

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