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Your Animal Replica Pictures

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by antonydavanzo, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. vaderdentist

    vaderdentist Well-Known Member

    JD aka Sabervault is absolutely top notch! All my MR pieces have come thru Sabervault!

    I'm pleasantly suprised with the pics I've seen so far. It looks far better in the photos than I figured it would. I know I can make him look even better in person. :)

  2. muppetguy

    muppetguy Well-Known Member


    Thanks for the info you guys! I appreciate it!:halo:
  3. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    Now that I worked with Animal for awhile, I am kinda happy with the way he looks on his head part. Now I got to find a way to pose him with Kermit and I will be happy. I am going to take pictures sometime soon.
  4. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    So there is mouth articulation, but the tongue gets in the way? I guess that is why it should be made of some kind of foam. No idea why they went with rubber. They could have gone with high density foam instead. I'm not getting some of the decisions made on this one and I really hope they don't mess up Fozzie this bad. Kermit was so good, Animal sounds awful to me.
  5. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    It looks like his teeth are made out of foam with some kind of paint over it and they are hard. His eyelids are made out of foam....whic is weird since the tongue is not made out of foam but of some other material. His mouth moves up and down, it just doesn't close shut is all. Like I said, otherwise he looks just like Animal and I love him now that I worked with him.
  6. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    Yes, I absolutely agree with you that the Animal from The Muppet Movie has his eyes right next to each other. But the original Animal from The Muppet Show that is in the clip that I linked to has his eyes separated. I freeze-framed it when he is looking straight into camera. The main difference is that his eyebrow fur is not between his eyes, but there is a gap.

    I know I'm going to seem like I'm contradicting myself here, but this is the closest to a real Muppet that we'll ever get without building our own. I don't think the slightly too large gap between the eyes ruins it in the same way that I think the wrong material for Gonzo's nose ruins him.

  7. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    I saw the clip and they aren't far apart. Like I said they seem far apart, but the gap is the nose. Look again, or better yet check the dvd. Maybe I'll pop it in and get a screen cap. But even if the first Animal has a large gap, I don't think that one clip is the proper reference to use when every other Animal puppet has them right next to each other. Face it, it throws off the likeness a lot. Why do you pretend like this isn't true? It may not stop other people from buying it, but it is still there. Unlike Kermit, if you put a pic of the Animal replica next to a pic of an Animal poser you're gonna know which is which right way.
  8. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Has anyone mentioned the chains?

    :halo: Did Animal come with a collar or chains as was in his pre-order description? That's part of where I thought the expense went. I hope that the collar and chain wasn't yanked (pun intended) merely to drum-up (pun intended again) support for accessory packs. I'd feel a bit hosed. It's Animal. The collar shouldn't come seperately. :sing: :flirt:
  9. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    yeah thats where I pre-ordered my Animal from... Sabervault. :) I hope there ANIMALS come soon! :smirk: btw I"M JUST LOVING THE ANIMAL PICS GANG! :excited:
  10. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    Looks to me like there are no shackles on him at all. I know that sometimes Animal went without, but really it would have been nice to have them. So many things about the final product just bug me.
  11. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Well-Known Member

    You're not alone I don't like this thing at all either. It reminds me more of gridle gorilla from the great space coaster (i'm being sarcastic) than it does animal. blah the body is fine but the head the key part is missing just to much for me to even want to consider plopping down that kind of money.
  12. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    That might warrant an inquiry. The price, even for a fan, is very steep. I know it's justified, but leaving out at least his signature collar does upset me. I look at MR as being more customer friendly than that. :sympathy:

    On the likeness side - I spent a bit of time studying Animal's likeness for figure revision. My task was mostly geared toward leg and knee joints, but I was always disappointed in the action figure eyes. It really is a tough thing to get right. They do seem to look different in multiple shots. That's partly why companies like to create approximations that cherrypick the best visual characteristics to lump together.

    We all remember the Muppets in different ways. We have our favorite looks, our favorite puppets. Nostalgia often blinds the fan too, me included. That particular area you are talking about between the eye shapes is a practical design challenge - especially to mass produce. I think it's pretty close.
  13. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    I don't see how you can think it is close. I'm sorry, I just don't. The eyes are just plan off. I mean this isn't something like the shape of Fozzie's head that has changed over the years. The eyes have always been right up next to each other, at the very least they were like that from the first puppet into the early 90's with a slight gap in more modern animals. This gap is SO much wider on the replica. I mean, go find a picture of Animal right now and put it next to the replica pic. It's so much more pronounced and I see no reason why they wouldn't have gotten it right when the solution is put them next to each other.
  14. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    That is so true! I haven't liked any Ernie or Cookie Monsters since the originals (see my avatar above). Although, the most recent Cookie Monsters have gotten back pretty close to the original.

    Ernie has never been the same again. I may have posted this somewhere else in some other thread, but it bears repeating. I actually asked Jim about why the puppets changed looks and his answer was that the look of the puppets wasn't important, it was all in the performance. So, there you go. That's why they never needed to rebuild them precisely, if that was even possible, Jim didn't care.

  15. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    I guess we can wait and see next year what we get for accessory packs for these posers. I notice the more I work with Animal, the better he looks.
  16. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I know it is unfair to create a digital alteration after the fact, but I just want to see if this is in the ballbark of what you are talking about. I did mess with more than just the eyes to make it the way I'd style it in my mind. Much of this can likely be achieved with posing, however you can't push the eyes closer together as in this alteration. I stilll give this replica a 98%. :halo:

    :) I credited Lab Rat for listing a portion of his graphic. Hope that's okay. Again, it's easier to be a backseat driver on this than go through all the paces of desgning, approving, producing and distributing a product. :attitude:

    I also agree with you, Was Once Ernie. There is a life that these can never have without the performer. I remember another member going so far as to say replicas were a bad idea for that reason, but I like these. The spark in these is all about the posing. When I first got my corpse like Kermit in the box I was not pleased. A few minutes later he came to life in the way I wanted.
  17. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    You hit the nail on the head there. That is much closer to how his eyes should be.
  18. Bear Man

    Bear Man Well-Known Member

    Looks pretty good to me - I'm not concerneed with the eye spacing, I think it's pretty close to what I remember (but then, Animal has never been a huge favourite of mine, so I can't say as I have aever taken a LOT of notice). My main issue is with the eyebrows - they're just a little too "slug-like" for me, where they need to be a bit more wild. I'm sure taht that can be achieved through some judicioius styling though.

    I didn't pre-order him and I'm not rushing out to get him, I'm much more concerned with having the cash to invest in Fozzie and, perhaps, Gonzo. But on the basisi of these photos I'm not ruling out getting him sometime in the future, which was never really the plan.

    All in all - good job, MR!
  19. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Well-Known Member

    That's funny he's contradicting himself there then because in another quote he says the eyes are the most important part of a muppet and if something is off the entire character looks wrong and said it's very important.
  20. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Well-Known Member

    That animal edit is perfect now that I'd plop money down for.

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