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Weinstein rolls with Fraggle Rock movie

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by GelflingWaldo, May 13, 2008.

  1. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    :coy: I remember watching the old Fraggle Rocks as a kid and (glorious as the episodes are) noting the green-screen edges especially around Fraggle hair. Many people have raised concerns about CG effects and modernizing the "look" of the Fraggles.

    :busy: I think it's great that this film is coming around at a time when effects have become more sophisticated. Green-screen techniques will shine in this film as will others. It would be great to see the odd CG Doozer scampering about the ground in some wide shots, but I do hope and believe that practical effects, perfected while the program was still on the air, will be the primary focus. CG can be used to enhance the Fraggle world. It shouldn't take over it.

    :excited: The Fraggle puppets themselves are fairly simple looking. They are masterfully constructed and performed. That's the part that brings the life to Fraggle Rock. Henson’s Fraggles and Muppets have always been about craftsmanship. Sometimes this craftsmanship is infused with a bit of technology.
  2. unclematt

    unclematt Well-Known Member

    I think things will be fine this is going to be a great film that will utilize todays technology without harming the beloved fraggles that we remember.
  3. Vicki Fraggle

    Vicki Fraggle Well-Known Member

    I read somewhere the was a rumor about Bill Barretta playing Cantus and Convincing John. Any news on that?
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Which is why I feel they're going to a great job with FR. This isn't a case of "Oh, let's just buy up some license and make a movie slightly related to it," Or "Let's make a generic kiddy flick and name it after some nostalgic cartoon so we can at least be attatched to a famous name so people would actually watch it."

    We're getting Fraggle Rock the Movie. There is a lot of push to get this film down right. I mean, we've had 9 muppet films (6 theatrical, 3 DTV), 2 Sesame Films, and the muppet fans felt like we always needed one.

    Plus, with Henson at the helm, and Weinstines known for not meddling (cough cough cough SOny), we don't have much to worry about until we hear different.
  5. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    No, but I think he'd do a pretty good job with them.
  6. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    But the point is that, in order to get entertainment back on the ball, we all must unite in some way to try and convince those in high positions to see the mistakes they've made.
  7. SillyRed

    SillyRed Well-Known Member

    I'm glad there will be a fraggle movie!:excited:
  8. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I love you avatar, SillyRed! Totally cute.

    I am excited about this movie, but very concerned about the Fraggles heading into the real world. Because this world is not a nice place. There's divorce, racism, fumes, roads, technology, hatred, war, etc.

    How will the Fraggles fit into this world?

    Surely it would either completly rip apart their ideals, or else the filmmakers will have to sugar-coat the world for them. It would be like the princess entering the real world in Enchanted, except five times more real and painful for them.

    Or else it will be like the Womble movie where people changed from seeing the Fraggles, which I don't quite see being realisitc.

    Or else, it will be a movie about "Save our rainforests."
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Come on. You know as much as I do that it's gonna be a sanitized version of the real world. If it were the world we really live in, the Fraggles would stay in their holes and never never never ever come out.

    I like that idea... the world will change by seeing Fraggles, Wombles, or Chozzles being peaceful. Yeah, that's going to stop the war profiteers from altering religious texts to cause rediculous wars that affect everyone negatively, except the people in power, and the war profiteers. That's gonna get the KKK to disband saying, "well, the Civil War was almost 200 years ago, and we lost. We should just grow up, and not blame people who aren't white for the fact we're a bunch of braindead lazy bums." And it sure the heck is gonna make it so the richest people in the country aren't the only ones that can afford healthcare.

    It's a kid's movie first and foremost. Do you think we'd get to anything slightly as dark as that? We'd get them mildly saying that racism is pointless, and hatrid is moronic. But subtlely.
  10. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    Yeah, for if the world we truly live in were shown, then Boober would be proven right in that hatred, death, and evil does exist. :( And in this case, who would want Boober to be right? :p
  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Actually I think Fraggle Rock was often pretty dark and often went places you wouldn't expect. It didn't just mildy say racism is pointless. Every other show does that. (We probably agree on this, just wording things differently. ;) )

    I personally hope the Fraggles are able to show the different social and political sides in our society that they're not that different from each other (for good and bad) and stop the constant bickering. :)
  12. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    And show how...silly...it is for us Silly Creature humans to be at each other's throats for differences at every turn.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Good point. Though I still think the human world will be kiddy movie sanitized. I mean, Uncle Matt's segments only dealt with oddities and miscomprehensions of common Human things. In no way did he ever see anything that would make him write, "NEVER EVER leave your Fraggle Holes. Outer Space is a mess, and you could get killed."

    Part of Jim Henson's legacy was to try to teach the world to get along with each other. He knew we could, and whether you believe it's naivety or brilliance, he wanted to show it was possible. That is the underlying fraggle Thesis. We clearly will see something like that stressed in the movie, but no matter how hard you stress it, the message is only open to people who want to listen to it.
  14. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Well, if it were written like a typical Dinosaurs episode, it WOULD come out that way ... for laughs. However, it WOULD be inappropriate and un-Fraggley to have such a sense of humor.

    Dark? You mean like nearly crushing Red and Boober in a cave-in? Or dropping Gobo down various holes and crevices? Or the near-constant "threat" of Gorg thumping? Or hiding cannons and various other WMD's in certain caves? Or getting everybody buzzed on Whoopie Water, which was like alcohol + Red Bull? Or making Boober fascinated with the macabre? Or carnivorous plants and tunnels? I've been watching the DVD's ... I am quite frankly surprised any Fraggle lives at all.
  15. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    I could see something happening where the Fraggles step out into the real world, sort of see what kind of a mess it's in, and learning from it for themselves. Perhaps it starts out with the Fraggle five having some sort of conflict, they head out into the real world, and see what they're doing happening out here, only worse. They learn from what they see. And, though they can't change the world, they can change themselves. ... or something like that.

    I do agree that the film will likely present a somewhat sanitized world, as with all films (whether for kids or not). But I think it might end up an important plot point for the Fraggles to learn from their experiences in "outer space".
  16. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    I could see that, though I can also see them trying to convince just one human.

    The thing is, we humans go about things the same way Gorgs do (did)... there are just more of us and our weapons are more powerful (assuming the Gorgs aren't hiding some mega-powerful weapon or magic in that basement of theirs).
  17. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    Indeed and sometimes, it begs one to question: Are we Silly Creatures more Fraggle-like or more Gorg-like? Anymore, it seems as though we may end up having more Gorgs in control rather than actually listening to our inner Fraggle.
  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well I think what's important to remember is that, while the Fraggles and Gorgs did have certain distinct features, they were complex personalities. The Fraggles occasionally got cocky or selfish and made mistakes. The Gorg occasionally managed to be honorable and kind. So I guess we're all a little of both and everything. :)
  19. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    I realize this is not the Message of FR thread, but Heralde, you have a point. I think one of the main themes is that we're all basically the same.
  20. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Aw thanks!

    Yes it is sort of an extension of the idea that before you just others, you should take a good look at yourself. :)

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